Thanks, That's exactly where I am at. Trying to get to that clamp you've pointed out. When I took the bracket off that fastens the hard pipe too the manifold I noticed the hardpipe is a little loose. It may be a good thing that I am getting in to it because I may have had a leak there anyway. It's pretty tough to get a wrench down in there and it's turned in a way that I can;t use a screwdriver to get it out. Then I have no idea how I'm going to get it back in afterwards.